[mrcaptainbob]

That's exactly the problem, adnadeau, I can't get java to load. And HayZee, there's just no finding any files with Java in their title or in the bodyof any file in 'c'. And yet, I can 'download' it from the Java site, open it, and click run but there's just never any evidence of it existing on this computer. Except, of coarse, on the desk top still in the manner of being lownloaded. This is very frustrating.