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Old 10-19-2004, 07:18 AM
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quote:Originally posted by LazyPup

I can certainly realize your frustrations and no doubt all the anxiety has left you at odd with your GC, but in this instance I think I have to agree with the GC.

The error, and ultimately your legal cause of action is with the architect.

Any deviation from the original plan is a change order, whether it is a change initiated by the owner, architect or conditions on the job. If that said change results in additional materials or labor, then the GC must be compensated for his efforts.

In all liklihood you are at wits end at the GC solely as a result of the anxieties created by the architects mistake.
Be honest a moment, things arent going as planned and the GC is the one you have daily contact with, ergo the one you vent to, The architect was the bumbling general Who ordered the troops out..The GC and his crew are just the poor dumb solders who have to make do with a bad plan, and in the end, the homeowner is the non-combatant who suffers the collateral damage.

There is an up side though...architects carry a very good malpractice insurance policy to cover such incidences. You might contact a lawyer and recover your losses, or even get a whole new set of cabinets that fit properly.
EXCEPT: ON THE ARCHITECTURAL PLANS, IN PLAIN KING'S ENGLISH IT STATES JUST AS PLAIN AS MY DOUBLE RIDGELINE, "THAT THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR SHALL FIELD VERIFY ALL DIMENSIONS AGAINST THE PLANS"....THE CABINET MANUFACTURERS ALSO STATE THAT THE DRAWINGS MUST BE FIELD VERIFIED BEFORE ORDERING......EVERYONE HAS A DISCLAIMER BECAUSE IN THE END THE &*^%$%%# GENERAL CONTRACTOR IS THE ENTITY, THE EXPERT, THE GUY IN CHARGE OF BUILDING THIS THING ACCORDING TO PLANS AND EVEN MORE IMPORTANT than THAT [ AND I SUSPECT YOU MAY BE A CONTRACTOR by the way], THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR WAS BEING PAID NEARLY $1000 PER WEEK TO OVER SEE THIS PROJECT. ok

IT WAS HIS JOB AS GC TO OVERSEE THE PROJECT OTHERWISE I WOULD HAVE DONE THE ENTIRE THING MY SELF IF IT HADN'T BEEN FOR OUR NEW BORN. CAPICE?

A CHANGE ORDER IS NOT FOR NEGLIGENCE.

THE GC DID NOT DO HIS HOMEWORK.
A typical CHANGE ORDER would be to: UPGRADE PLUMBING; ADD A BAY WINDOW; CHANGE TO GRADE 4 GRANITE; not to TIE THE FOUNDATION DRAINAGE TO THE DOWNSPOUT DRAINAGE, MOVE THE HOUSE OUT 14' INSTEAD OF 12',

THOSE ARE VALID CHANGE ORDERS.

"UH, I AM TOO BUSY TO PAY ATTENTION TO DETAIL AND MAKE SURE THIS PROJECT GOES SMOOTHLY..-the contractor

NOT SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS VERIFYING AN EXISTING WALL'S DIMENSION AGAINST THE PLANS....HELL HE SHOULD HAVE SEEN THIS WHEN TH E MASONS POURED THE BASEMENT FOUNDATION........AND SAVED HIMSELF HOURS OF GRIEF AND $.

SO, AS YOU MIGHT GET A SENSE THAT BEING in A FREE COUNTRY, AN OPEN MESSAGE BOARD AND A GOOD SPORT, SIDING WITH THE ^%&%$^#%$^& LAME ASS GENERAL CONTRACTOR IS BAD JU-JU TODAY.

IF YOU HAVE AN EXTRA $135,000 TO THROW AROUND ON A FINISHED PRODUCT THAT DIDN'T FOLLOW THE AIA ACHITECTURAL PLANS YOU PAID THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS FOR PUT A FEATHEr IN YOUR HAT AND CALL IT MACARONI!.

So until you do spend that much and come out looking pretty and smelling rosey, and everything turns out the way it was planned then be happy, ours didn't, it sucked and we had a newborn distraction in the middle of a bulding project

, please think about your comments in regard to the mission of this board.

I have no idea why I posted this to begin with a nd I suspect I had links to a website and photographs which i removed months ago and all that is left is what is on this topic...

all has been deleted cuz this is not a current topic at our house anymore...

CYA thanks for the reply!




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