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Old 08-08-2008, 12:25 PM
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Deck joist repair- Dangerous?!?! Picture

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I am looking for advice in repairing a deck main joist that got invaded by carpenter ants after experiencing some rot. Below is an illustration of the problem -



The outer joist is three sistered 2x12x20'. ONly the two outer ones have been affected, just a tiny bit of rot on the bottom where water pooled on the third. The rest of the span is solid.
Because the entire deck structure is enclosed top, sides and bottom with decking and siding, it would be a MAJOR pain to have to rip off everything and replace all three joists. Is ther any splicing or splice/sistering that will do the trick and give enough support?
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I would think that you could sister a 2x12x10 on the middle joist using lag bolts that are countersunk so the heads don't protrude above its surface, then sister another 2x12x20 on top of that one. Use waterproof construction adhesive between all joists. if you have access to the back of the non affected beam, use long carriage bolts and stagger the bolt pattern. you are going to have to remove some siding to make the repair. there's just no way to nail the things up from underneath. I wouldn't trust nails on a joist. bolts are the way to go.

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Thanks for the input!
I figured that I could safely lag two new 2x12 on. It would mean removing all the casework on the outside and underside of that end, for the full 20'.

I guess I was wondering if ther was someway to safely splice some new 2x12 on without removing the full length. Thanks to a quirck on the forum, the diagram is below.


Would this provide aneough strength? I don't know how glueing and bolting a splice compares with a solid length, but i don't want to do something unsafe or "non-code". The deck is 14' in the air, and i wouldn't want it to be a hazard.
The 14' is whay I am alos loath to have to do major reconstruction...

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yeah you could "cut n paste" a few 2x12s I was just thinking of the weight over the span, that's why I suggested the 2x12x10 and the 2x12x20. Using the adhesive on the joists you will be creating a structural beam. heck, trusses they make now are 2x3's with OSB in between [oriented strand board]
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Joist repair....

Because of the recommended minimum five foot overlap, would that put the distance between the joint ends at ten feet, Hayzee?
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THanks all for the input.
So... is the recommended overlap 5 feet? I could accomplisj that without removing the entire structure end. Will five feet glued and lag bolted give the appropriate span strength?

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