washer / gas dryer electrical requirement

[spotty]

how many people have a wet sink within six ft of the outlet, and a motor on a gfi circuit can become a nuciance trip.

[spotty]

Originally Posted by Speedy Petey

Tamper-proof ONLY applies to areas who have adopted the 2008 NEC with no amendments for that section.
NOT nearly every place has.

Might as well adopt to the code. It probally won't go into full affect until next code cycle but it's in there, and supply houses are already stocking them.

[Speedy Petey]

Originally Posted by spotty

Might as well adopt to the code. It probally won't go into full affect until next code cycle but it's in there, and supply houses are already stocking them.

NOT mine.
If my customers want them I'll certainly install them, but they'll pay for it. It's for damn certain I will not bid them into a job. Wanna know why??? Because NO ONE else around here is either.
Same goes for AFCIs all over. My area does not require them so they don't go in unless I am asked to.

I DO NOT buy into the theory that "Well, it'll be code eventually so why not do it." mentality.

[Speedy Petey]

Originally Posted by spotty

how many people have a wet sink within six ft of the outlet,

Ummm, a lot! I have a laundry sink RIGHT next to my washer.

I suggest you read 210.8(A)(7).
In fact I'll post it for you:

210.8 Ground-Fault Circuit-Interrupter Protection for Personnel

(A) Dwelling Units All 125-volt, single-phase, 15- and 20-ampere receptacles installed in the locations specified in (1) through (8) shall have ground-fault circuit-interrupter protection for personnel.

(7) Laundry, utility, and wet bar sinks — where the receptacles are installed within 1.8 m (6 ft) of the outside edge of the sink



NO ifs ands buts OR exceptions. GFI protection IS required even if the receptacle is behind the washer or dryer.

Originally Posted by spotty

and a motor on a gfi circuit can become a nuciance trip.

So what.

[jnaas2]

You guys may want to point out to people who are not familar with electricity that you can run 2 seperate circuits on a 12/3 with ground but that you need to make sure that you dont connect to the same phase since your neutral wire sees the current from a unbalanced circuit. If you connect your hot wires to the same phase the neutral wire will carry the the current that the 2 hot wires are carrying and if you lose the neutral wire it turns a parallel circuit into a series circuit and can smoke appliances that are being used on that circuit.

[HayZee518]

good thought

[davidg73]

my washer and gas dryer single 20 amp circuit. never had a problem with it. the house was setup for all electric, so i have the old 240v outlet right there if i ever need to change back. i actually would consider putting in the 240 outlet along with teh gas feed now. that gives flexibility later down the road.

that was what i liked about the house we used to rent. the builder had put both gas and electric feed to the laundry, kitchen, and WH area. gave you the option of using what you wanted.