Can 1 lifter pump supply 2 monitor heaters?

[Coohlrain]

Hmmm, I thought I posted a reply last night but now I don't see it!

Let's see. Here is a link to some pictures - never mind... it won't let me post a link It says I have to post 5 or more times until it will let me. If you want to contact me at my email maybe I can send you the link via email. Mine is jeni@wildblue.net

The big round black piece is the cylinder that won't spin. There is a rod going into it (that the stick/shaft goes into) and it simply does not "spin". If the whole cylinder is supposed to spin once it is installed it seems way too tight in the opening when assembled to be able to spin.

So once I turn the motor on it simply snaps the stick/shaft.

Any advice you can give is appreciated. As I said, I am determined to do everything I can before I drop $400 - $500 on a whole new lifter pump!!!

Thanks!
Jenny

[adnadeau]

Looks like the bottom of the pump is removable. Undo the three socket-head cap screws and see what's inside.

[Coohlrain]

It worked adnadeau!!! I had to use vice grips to secure the nuts and really force it apart but once apart there was a lot of crud binding it up.! I used carburetor cleaner and completely cleaned it. It came entirely apart and there was a small cylinder inside the big one with little plastic ribs. I took that out and just cleaned and cleaned and cleaned, put it back together and now it is working like a champ! I do think the drive shaft needs to be replaced. It had snapped apart but there is a plastic sleeve holding the two ends together. It is precarious so I will check with Nelson & Small and see if I can order a new one. I don't think the one I have in there will last too long before it gives me trouble.

You have no idea how pleased I am! This is such a victory for me. That pump has not worked in years and I simply didn't bother heating my upstairs. It gets pretty cool up there so this is going to be a real treat to have heat again! Your willingness to help is just outstanding. Thanks for your patience and know that you just kept one more electronic device out of the landfill and saved me about 400 bucks. THANKS! Jenny

[HayZee518]

I have never experienced a high lift pump. all my heaters have been at ground level. if you can send me an exploded diagram I can study it for future problems.

[adnadeau]

The Toyotomi pump manual is at (http://www.toyotomiusa.com/products/...s/OPT-91UL.pdf). I can't find one for the Monitor pump. Congratulations, Jenny; nice work.

[Coohlrain]

adnadeau,
Nice job getting the pics attached to your post in the thread. Maybe it will help someone else out some day. She is still humming along beautifully which I am extremely pleased about, especially with sub zero temps on the horizon.

Thanks for the "atta girl" (or at least what looked like one to me)

Jenny

[adnadeau]

Jenny,
As long as you're on a roll, why not try permanently repairing the pump drive shaft or creating a new one from scratch? If it snapped in the middle and you sleeved it with plastic tubing or such, make it permanent. Use small diameter PVC pipe to sleeve it with and glue it or epoxy it in place. Or make a new shaft out of a piece of plastic pipe with some pins in the end to fit in the motor and pump shaft slots.

[Coohlrain]

Oh my!
I am all over this one! I did call Nelson & Small and they referred me to my local dealer who I have had work on my Monitor and Toyotomis in the past. I was going to call them to see if they could get the part but haven't done so yet. Instead I am going to make one! What a fantastic idea!

The pvc idea is great! There is plenty of room inside the chamber to hold a larger diameter drive shaft. Creating the ends so they are narrow enough to fit in the slots would be the hardest part, but I think I am up for the challenge! If I even just shored up the joint by wrapping it with pvc and gluing it, I think it would work. This sounds like it is right up my alley. Watch for a future post with a picture of my new drive shaft! I will be sure to share it.

I admire your stichtoitnevness adnadeau!
Jenny

[adnadeau]

I happened to think, if the driveshaft is in contact with the kerosene, glue might not be a good idea. If you can find either pvc pipe or brass tubing (True Value Hardware stores carry it) or even semi-flexible plastic tubing with an inside diameter that will fit over the motor and pump shafts snugly, you could put metal pins crosswise through the tube at the ends to fit in the slots.