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    You guys are busy . Sorry it's been a busy week with the holiday weekend and all. A little background for me. Before I posted any questions, I did a lot of Google searching on how folks wired up multiple doorbells (wasn't really thinking beyond a basic doorbell system at that time). However, I was not finding any one that did more than 2 with one exception - well actually 2. One guy just in passing said he had three doorbells on a single transformer, but no additional information, and his post was years old, so the thread was closed. One other guy said he built a home for his folks about 5 years back and had a single transformer with *5* doorbells, but one died within the last year. He stopped posting, so there was really no information about what he did, so these were both dead ends. And then I realized that there are probably a lot of really smart folks out there who could help guide me and I decided to post on a number of sites - this one included. So I really appreciate all the information!

    Nestor, my sister has a telephone answering system on her apartment, so when someone rings her at the front door, she programmed it to ring her cell phone. So at home or not, she can answer and the person at her front door has no idea if she's home or not. It's intriguing for sure. I haven't checked into that option at all (hadn't even thought about it for a home space), but as I may have already mentioned, I've installed 2 jacks in each room (some have more like our office and my storage area). This affords me the option of putting phones in any location. We are, though, installing an intercom in all bedrooms including the garage, office, laundry and my mechanical room/shop. For that product, our low voltage contractor likes Legrand by OnQ. I had read about them before the contractor suggested them, so I was a little familiar, but after reading your post, I called the company to ask what options I would have if I added their front door unit. They said that when the button of their front door unit was pushed, it would "ring" all the internal intercom units, so wherever you are in the house, you are notified and can answer and talk to anyone through the intercom. However, they said that their product is not tied to any type of calling system. Not sure if it's possible to somehow integrate it into some other product, but this is something I hadn't thought of and had forgotten about, so we are adding the required electrical box at the front door to add the doorbell product by Legrand. As Nestor stated, it would be nice to tie it into a phone calling solution, but that's not possible with this product. We could, however, find another product that may still provide this functionality by another vendor, but that vendor would have to be able to take advantage of the CAT5 cabling we have run to each room if we wanted to go another route.

    Nestor, are you by chance familiar with any intercom systems for homes that would provide the phone integration like you are referring? I'd like to read up on them if you have a product or company in mind.

    Thanks guys for all the help, advice and guidance!
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    BadBoy:

    I phoned MTS (Manitoba Telephone Systems) and the receptionist told me that the "business sales" representative that I needed to talk to was not available that the present time, but that she had my phone number and would let him know to get back to me on this issue when he had time.

    I will try to find out who makes the phone based intercom system described in my post and will get back to you when I have any information on it.

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    Well, someone from MTS Business Services did phone me back, and I guess he was a bit disappointed that I only wanted the name of the company that makes that phone based intercom system because he basically told me to f*** off. He did say, however, that they're common nowadays and that every local telephone utility would be offering something like that to the apartment blocks and seniors residences in your area.

    So, if you simply phone up your local telephone utility and explain that you want to talk to someone in their "Business Services" department because you want to find out more about telephone based intercom systems, your local phone system should have someone on staff who's familiar with them, and would know if there's something similar available for high end homes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestor View Post
    Well, someone from MTS Business Services did phone me back, and I guess he was a bit disappointed that I only wanted the name of the company that makes that phone based intercom system because he basically told me to f*** off. He did say, however, that they're common nowadays and that every local telephone utility would be offering something like that to the apartment blocks and seniors residences in your area.

    So, if you simply phone up your local telephone utility and explain that you want to talk to someone in their "Business Services" department because you want to find out more about telephone based intercom systems, your local phone system should have someone on staff who's familiar with them, and would know if there's something similar available for high end homes.
    Thanks, Nestor. Appreciate your willingness to check that out with MTS. I'll give a call to my local telephone company (which isn't as local as it used to be - Century 21 these days) and see what they tell me.

    Tonight I thought of one other aspect. If we install a front doorbell tied into our intercom or phone, not sure how that might work for back door doorbell buttons (I have 2 locations). Just something I missed in my research.

    Guess the good ole 18/5 wire is still good insurance if only for that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HayZee518 View Post
    Nestor must have multiple transformers on his mind when you can do the same with one buck-boost transformer. see my accompaning diagram. it shows ONE transformer connected to five loads through two pushbuttons - a front and a rear.
    if you still wish multiple transformers, follow Nestor's diagram for parallel wiring. just make sure the transformers you buy are identical with regard to impedance rating.
    With everything written recently, I realize I'll probably still wire for doorbells and doorbell buttons even though I will use an intercom type front doorbell button. Mainly because I also have 2 back doors - one on our deck and one downstairs next to the basement that I want to have doorbell buttons. I'll probably call OnQ Legrand again about that because I don't want the same button for the back doors (which will seldom if ever be used). Maybe I'll still resort to doorbells for that, but not sure yet. I'm guessing there must be some interface for these too, so I'll have to see what OnQ says.

    HayZee518, I did call Jefferson Electric to inquire about a buck-boost transformer for a doorbell system (www[dot]JeffersonElectric[dot]com). The smallest they have is 100va (item #416-1201-000). They used to have a 50va, but they no longer have that. This may be too big, but if we use the intercom, it may not even be necessary.

    At this point, I've gotten a lot of good information on options - thanks, HayZee518 and Nestor!!! I'll still go ahead and wire as planned and see what can be accommodated later. I still like the phone idea, but don't want a monthly cellular bill unless I could run it through my VoIP system somehow. But right now, the Legrand OnQ system says they don't have a phone interface for their intercom system. I think our wiring will accommodate another type of intercom that may have a phone interface, so I don't believe we are locked in for any specific company's product, though we'd probably have to choose one that can use the CAT5 wiring we have in place. Again, thanks guys for all your help!

    If I think of anything more, I'll be sure to ask !

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    doorbell

    well then go with the 100 va xfmr. it'll save you time and money getting one unit instead of five transformers. I doubt you'll burn it up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HayZee518 View Post
    well then go with the 100 va xfmr. it'll save you time and money getting one unit instead of five transformers. I doubt you'll burn it up!
    Cool - thanks, HayZee518. I wasn't sure if it was too over-powered!

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