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04-24-2008, 08:39 PM
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Starling that thinks he's a duck
Had a problem today that just cropped up. Was able to flush the water closet all morning long without a problem. Then mid afternoon had just taken care of nature's call and flushed the toilet. Water came up in the bowl almost to overflowing. Couldn't figure it out. Tried the plunger and it didn't do anything. Went up on the roof and shoved a stiff rubber garden hose down it about 15 feet. Tried it again. Still was moving slow. Went into the basement and removed two cleanouts and looked inside. All clear. Went out in my shed to another cleanout and put the hose in there and let it go for about a half hour. Flushed the toilet again Still slow. So I began to think, main line is clear, house lines are clear, got to be in the toilet. Got a closet auger and ran it through - nothing came out. OK, had a spare wax ring. Pulled the toilet and what should I see - a bird stuck half inside the toilet trap. Pulled it out re-installed the toilet. It all works now.
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04-24-2008, 09:55 PM
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Hayzee..I thought electricians always tied a string on the bird before they shoot it through a pipe....LOL
For those of you who are not electricians or tradesmen and possibly didn't understand my response, in the electrical trade when they are installing long runs of conduit they often use a little foam plug called a "Bird". The bird is inserted into the end of a conduit along with a small roll of string with the opposite end of the string attached to the starting end. They then use high pressure air to shoot the foam plug through the conduit and once it comes out the other end they can use the string to pull a rope through, which they will then use to pull the wires into the conduit.
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04-28-2008, 11:22 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LazyPup
Hayzee..I thought electricians always tied a string on the bird before they shoot it through a pipe....LOL
For those of you who are not electricians or tradesmen and possibly didn't understand my response, in the electrical trade when they are installing long runs of conduit they often use a little foam plug called a "Bird". The bird is inserted into the end of a conduit along with a small roll of string with the opposite end of the string attached to the starting end. They then use high pressure air to shoot the foam plug through the conduit and once it comes out the other end they can use the string to pull a rope through, which they will then use to pull the wires into the conduit.
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Funny. I never heard of this before.
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04-28-2008, 01:32 PM
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Actually the thing that goes through an assembled conduit run is called a "MOUSE." Look in any Greenlee catalog and you'll see a gizmo that has two rubber washers, a piece of iron wire and a foam plug in the middle. This is threaded into a conduit with a long nylon string attached at one end. Greenlee supplies a high vacuum vacuum cleaner that pulls this mouse through the conduit. A high pressure air line can also be used to "push" this mouse through the conduit.
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